Report: Australia Bans Men From Army To Boost Female Numbers

By now, we’ve all come to terms with the fact that political correctness isn’t going anywhere anytime soon. In small doses, it’s tolerable. In fact, it’s actually led to some small improvements in a couple of areas.

The problem lies in the fact that the concept of political correctness has run amok. Virtually everything is under scrutiny at all times, and god forbid if the p.c. police get wind of something that sends a draft through their safe space. There’s hell to pay when that happens!

While that comes with the territory in today’s day and age, there’s times when it goes way too far. For example, if political correctness ever outweighed the importance of national security, that would be a really bad thing.

Unfortunately, there’s actually an example of that happening – and we’re not talking about the row over transgender soldiers in our nation’s military. As Yahoo shares, reports are making the rounds that “Australian Defense Force staff have been told to recruit only women, including in frontline combat roles, under threat of being reassigned.”

Why would that be? Yahoo reports that it’s an “attempt to increase the number of female soldiers in its ranks,” but defense insiders aren’t so sure, noting that it’s “political correctness gone mad.”

For what it’s worth, Defense Industry Minister Christopher Pyne says that “we are trying to encourage more to be a part of that society, but there is no banning of men being recruited,”according to Yahoo.

Bernie Gaynor, a former Army officer and Australian Conservatives party member, chimed in with some thoughts, saying that “politically correct policies have gone beyond bonkers,” Yahoo reports.

Should we take solace in the fact that we’re not the only nation being overrun by the p.c. police? Or should we be very afraid for our friends Down Under? Close call, but we’re going to choose door number two.  

Source: Yahoo



  1. David Watts

    August 12, 2017 at 3:01 pm

    Sweden, Canada, and Australia are far more insane about this stuff than the U.S. is — but we’re catching up. 🙁 At least, these countries provide us with examples of what *not* to do.

    • Alaynah Irene

      August 12, 2017 at 8:09 pm

      America is so much worse then Canada! LOL

      • Gordon Fellis

        August 12, 2017 at 8:30 pm

        You can’t even drive your guns to the gun range with ammo in your car in Canada.

        • Alaynah Irene

          November 4, 2017 at 1:37 am

          Yeah.. So we haven’t had any spilled blood. How many mass shootings has America has this year? 275. How many did Canada have? 1. We like to keep our family safe. Even if you think that isn’t.. I don’t know.. Manly? We would rather be safe happy people then be able carry a gun. You people want protection yet.. No one is protected. Sandy hook, Vegas shooting , columbine, pulse. And those are just the mainstream events.

      • EL

        August 13, 2017 at 11:28 am

        And your cuck pussy hat wearing president gave 10 million to a known terrorist and a formal apology. Fuck off US is worse.

      • AlexCorvidae

        August 14, 2017 at 12:09 pm

        It’s not yet a crime to mispronoun somebody in the US. Canada wins.

    • Teknikid

      August 12, 2017 at 10:59 pm

      That they do, but then the idiot left takes that as a sign that the US is behind and needs to catch up in order to stay relevant. The left are idiots.

  2. Gabriel Lira

    August 12, 2017 at 3:07 pm

    Resumindo, vão se foder. Hahaha!

  3. anna

    August 12, 2017 at 3:32 pm

    what the fuck

  4. Jim Madison

    August 12, 2017 at 3:34 pm

    Invade Australia!

    • True.Epic.Crusader

      August 12, 2017 at 4:42 pm

      Won’t be difficult to invade anymore! The US can come in and make it great.

      • Griffy Griffin

        August 12, 2017 at 8:08 pm

        How about no, we don’t want your shitty imperial system of measurement.

        • True.Epic.Crusader

          August 12, 2017 at 9:00 pm

          Better send your wives and daughters to stop us, then!

  5. Naos

    August 12, 2017 at 4:00 pm

    So, banning transgenders is completely fine, but banning some men is some sort of atrocity. Discrimination is only okay if I don’t like those being discriminated against. Either discrimination is fine, or it’s not. You can’t have both.

    • Pepper

      August 12, 2017 at 4:11 pm

      Actually many men ARE banned from serving in the U.S. military, such as transgender “women” along with others who possess various medical and psychological conditions.

    • MikeO

      August 12, 2017 at 4:24 pm

      Discrimination is obviously necessary for the military; would you require them to indiscriminately accept 75 year olds?

      • Naos

        August 12, 2017 at 4:27 pm

        You’re comparing a 75 year old to clearly fit transgender people who have been serving in the military for years. I thought you people supported the veterans. But when they’re transgender, you don’t give a fuck about them, do you? The hypocrisy.

        • SinStrall

          August 12, 2017 at 5:43 pm

          given that transgenders have an extremely high suicide rate, should they just ignore that because of feels? Of course they also ban people for having many diseases, mentally unfit, physically unfit etc etc should we also start a tirade to get all standards dropped just to appease you?

          • Naos

            August 12, 2017 at 6:23 pm

            And… transgender people have shown to be mentally and physically fit. Otherwise, there wouldn’t have been 15,000 of them there.

          • SinStrall

            August 12, 2017 at 6:55 pm

            We are talking about people who in their mind do not feel they are in the right body correct? How is that mentally fit?

          • Naos

            August 12, 2017 at 6:59 pm

            I could say people who believe in a magic sky daddy are unfit. So, should only agnostics and atheists be allowed to serve in the military?

          • SinStrall

            August 12, 2017 at 7:13 pm

            Figures you’d be an atheist.

          • Naos

            August 12, 2017 at 7:17 pm

            Oh because what’s more ridiculous? Oh, right, the mythology of religion. At least gender dysphoria is given credibility in the DSM. Where’s any science regarding God though?

          • SinStrall

            August 12, 2017 at 7:29 pm

            Well, since you wanted to bring in the dsm…gender disphoria is a mental illness according to them and mental illnesses disqualifies you from serving. Just saying.

          • Naos

            August 12, 2017 at 7:39 pm

            Yet, there are people with mood disorders such as depression in the military. And you know, what the difference is? Having gender dysphoria is not going to affect someone’s performance. Plus, like, homosexuality, considering gender dysphoria a mental illness is controversial among the scientific community, which is why they had to stop calling it “gender identity disorder”. Which basically shows it’s on the way to declassification. Along with that, like with depression, if you don’t have it at the time, it’s not disqualifying. Just like a lot of post-op transgender people. They longer have dysphoria.

          • ShikokuPrincess91

            August 12, 2017 at 9:43 pm

            They are clearly sickos. Their insane suicide rate alone is proof.

            They know they are freaks, and are shunned by decent people.

          • Naos

            August 12, 2017 at 9:44 pm

            And the Japanese suicide rate is massively high as well. Guess they’re sickos as well.

          • SinStrall

            August 13, 2017 at 12:23 am

            And the Japanese people are in a steady decline because of how they handle their suicide rates. Aside from all of that, if they want to enlist they can, just like gays did when there was a ban. If they need to be out about “I’M TRANS!” then the military isn’t for them as their focus should be making the military, which is a fighting force, stronger and one.

          • Naos

            August 13, 2017 at 1:36 am

            No, they’re in a decline because of birth rates. Not suicide rates. And no, pretty sure, there’s physical exams. Unlike being gay, if you’re transgender, people are going to know it. The “don’t ask, don’t tell” policy was just asinine.

          • ShikokuPrincess91

            August 13, 2017 at 1:58 pm

            Yes. They are mentally ill.
            Don’t know why that question would even be asked.

          • ShikokuPrincess91

            August 12, 2017 at 9:41 pm

            The existence of God is external to man and unfalsifiable. You can look down and see your genitals.

          • Naos

            August 12, 2017 at 9:46 pm

            Something being unfalsifiable is bad.

            Another thing unfalsifiable would be me saying I hang out with rainbow unicorns, but no one else can see them. I go to another universe and train Pokemon, but I’m the only one who has access to the portal, no one can see it or perceive it. You can’t disprove me.

          • ShikokuPrincess91

            August 13, 2017 at 1:57 pm

            It’s bad in the sense of an empirical argument, yes, but the point is that someone’s sex is easily determined by looking down.
            There’s as much evidence that someone with a penis is a girl that there is Amida Buddha is in the Great Western Paradise, except in the case for sex, there’s actually proof of the opposite.

          • ShikokuPrincess91

            August 12, 2017 at 9:40 pm

            They are diseased mentally. The threat to morale, to cohesion, and to the image of the military is too much.
            To a non American like myself the idea of transvestites serving in the military is absurd.
            But your left wing culture is OBSESSED with cross dressing buffoons!

          • Naos

            August 12, 2017 at 9:43 pm

            I mean, you’re pretty diseased mentally. You shouldn’t even be allowed on the internet, cunt.

          • ShikokuPrincess91

            August 13, 2017 at 2:00 pm

            Derp derp derp. Oh you big baby.
            You have no idea what a mental disease even is from a medical standpoint, you are just triggered.
            Go look up “Gender Dysphoria” in the DSM. That settles all discussion to anyone reasonable and halfway rational

        • Blakfyre

          August 12, 2017 at 5:59 pm

          No, he’s merely stating that there are a wide variety of conditions that disqualify one from military service. Being old is one, being mentally unstable is one, being undeployable over long periods for forseeable reasons is one. Anyway, tests show that the deadliest and most effective units are those that are comprised in their entirety of males, They conclusively show this, across multiple metrics. Why would a nation, any nation, dilute the capabilities of their primary defense force in the name of inclusiveness?

          • Naos

            August 12, 2017 at 6:24 pm

            So, mentally/physically fit people shouldn’t be allowed to serve their country if they choose to do so? Okay.

          • Blakfyre

            August 12, 2017 at 7:59 pm

            Correct. Average mental and physical fitness isn’t enough to make you qualified for combat. There are objective physical requirements and specific measurements for physical capabilities (even down to Lung capacity and O2 saturation under stress), that are required, because the more elite your unit is, the less time they take to complete a mission and the less casualties you take while doing it.

            Conditions that keep you from bonding within a unit, from deploying over time, are correlated with mental instability, conditions that can result in physical infirmity over time, are, and should remain, disqualifying. Even if the individuals are otherwise physically or mentally fit at the moment, the future potential for problems is enough to make disqualifying them for service simpler for administration and commanders.

          • Naos

            August 12, 2017 at 8:11 pm

            But, not all people get deployed, and not all are combat roles.

          • Bibliotheca ab Nova Roma

            August 13, 2017 at 1:39 am

            Y’know what? I’m gonna let you deal with this jackass. You have many times my level of patience with his/xis intellectual dishonesty and stupidity, so I feel comfortable just pretending he doesn’t even exist. Sorry, heh…but thanks for giving me an out! I don’t need to raise my blood pressure… 🙂

          • Bibliotheca ab Nova Roma

            August 13, 2017 at 1:48 am

            Oh, and in case he says “well who cares if it’s simpler? It’s discrimination!” or something equally stupid and predictable, well, I guess you already know that the military doesn’t exist to benefit/accommodate the folks who would like to join it, lol. It amazes me how many leftist SJW’s like this guy fail to grasp that basic fact. No, it’s *not* “fair”. Who cares? If it makes it harder for the military to kill people and break things, it has no business being in the military! …jeeze, you’d think I didn’t just say I was gonna let you deal with him… *sheepish expression* sorry, heh.

          • Victor Kilo

            August 13, 2017 at 1:26 pm

            You used a lot of big words and logic there. Probably lost xer.

          • ShikokuPrincess91

            August 12, 2017 at 9:36 pm

            Transgenders are mentally ill.
            Also men make a hundred times better soldiers than women. These are facts.

          • Naos

            August 12, 2017 at 9:40 pm

            Nope. It’s in contention whether gender dysphoria is considered a mental disorder. Hence why they removed “disorder” from the name entirely.

            And saying “men make a hundred times better soldiers than women”, is not fact. It’s just bias that is not rooted in any sort of statistics, just a stupid cunt’s thinking.

          • Teknikid

            August 12, 2017 at 11:08 pm

            From the APA website: “People with gender dysphoria may often experience significant distress and/or problems functioning associated with this conflict between the way they feel and think of themselves (referred to as experienced or expressed gender) and their physical or assigned gender.”

            Given this description by the APA, would you want someone with the above serving in combat or otherwise militarily related, or would you want someone with a much healthier frame of mind serving in that capacity?

          • Naos

            August 12, 2017 at 11:12 pm

            And as I said to many people, I could make the same argument about religion. Their gender identity has nothing with their job. Just like their religion, has nothing to do. Yet I don’t care if all the religious people stay in the military. It’s obvious all the transgenders in the military were doing just fine. So, by your own logic, we shouldn’t hire transgender people at all. They should banned from working. We want someone serving with a “much healthier frame of mind”.

          • Teknikid

            August 13, 2017 at 10:12 pm

            But your religion argument does not carry APA clout. In fact, one article on the APA’s website supports religion as good for organizing associations.

            Besides, there are many, many occupations transgenders can work in just fine that don’t require the stamina required by combat. I worked with a couple at my last job for several years. However one of them ended up getting fired for theft. Probably not a related characteristic…..

          • ShikokuPrincess91

            August 13, 2017 at 2:02 pm

            Look at the DSM. It’s in there.
            Actually it is fact. Men do better than women at fighting and killing. They are stronger, faster, tougher, and don’t have babies.

            You are just mad because you’re a frail thing.

          • Knights Hawk

            August 13, 2017 at 4:40 am

            A transgender is not mentally fit, they’re mentally ill.

          • Naos

            August 13, 2017 at 4:43 am

            Yet, they’re in the military. So I’d say otherwise, cunt.

          • Knights Hawk

            August 13, 2017 at 1:20 pm

            Aww, what’s the matter? You can’t make a cogent argument, so you resort to name calling?
            You don’t get it, these people (are you one, or is it a close family memeber?) “think” they’re something that they’re not, that’s mental illness. If they thought they were some other type of mammal would that make it so?
            All they know is that they don’t think they feel like they should as a man or a woman, so they must be the other. But since they don’t even know what they’re supposed to “feel” like, what makes them an expert on what the other sex is supposed to feel like?
            Sorry, I choose not to buy into their mental illness and play their (your) little game. Nope, too, to your little slur. I’m a normal biological male, and I know it. That makes me a dick. I am one, and have one. I know how to use it, too. Something that your sick little mind won’t allow you to do, no matter which side of your illness you fall on.

          • Naos

            August 13, 2017 at 4:51 pm

            And once again, why can’t I make the same argument for every religion on the planet. I guess if a lot of people believe in it, then it’s not a disorder, hmm? You people seem to be choosy.

            I’m calling you names because you’re clearly contributing to the suicide rate of transgenders and are basically saying they belong in a mental institution. Transgender people have existed for quite a long time, using the bathrooms of their choice for ages.

            You’re a dick? Well, I guess you are what you eat, my mistake.

            If it was such a mental illness as everyone claimed, why are psychologists debating it’s inclusion in the DSM, it getting no longer called a “disorder” by name, and allowing people transgender treatment? See, you basically want them to kill themselves. Since transition is pretty much the only option for these people, and you want to not allow them to have that. Let’s go and not allow cancer patients to have their chemotherapy.

          • Knights Hawk

            August 13, 2017 at 7:17 pm

            Did I say anything about religion? No? Then that’s one straw man argument you can shove up your backside and light.
            Not playing into their mental illness contributes to their suicide rate? No, kid, they’re doing it without my help. I am acquainted with a “trans” individual. I treat him with respect. I call him by his preferred name, but I do not call him a her.
            Let’s shoot down, or burn down, another of your straw men while we’re at it. Are you seriously equating a 15.4 per 100,000 suicide rate with a 40,000 per 100,000 suicide rate? Japanese suicide rates are high, trans suicide rates are 2600 times higher. That’s 260,000%, for somebody math challenged like you.
            You know what DSM stands for, right? Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of MENTAL DISORDERS. PC would be the reason anybody would be looking to change it’s classification, not reality.
            Next, let’s take a look at your relationship with reality. You really don’t grasp the whole “normal” thing, do you. I’m a male, satisfied with what parts I have, and fancy those that a woman has. I practice cunnilingus, not fellatio. That means that I like vaginas. Vagina – something you have and wish you didn’t, or something you wish you had but don’t. BTW, which is it?
            No, whatsis, I don’t wish for them to kill themselves. I wish for them to get psychological treatment, treatment for their diseased mind and not their healthy bodies.
            You see, with cancer you have diseased organs, and you treat the cancer at the place where it is, you treat the disease. With mental illness you have a diseased mind. Cutting off some guy’s perfectly healthy genitalia doesn’t treat the disease. In fact, there are studies that indicate a HIGHER suicide rate for those that have gone through reassignment surgery. The mind is where the illness is, and that’s what needs treated. You couldn’t treat a gangrenous foot by cutting off a hand, you don’t treat a mental illness by cutting off a penis, even if that’s where the patient thinks the problem lies.
            Just what do you prescribe for “gender fluid”? You know, those so confused by their mind that they don’t even know what they’re going to “feel” like tomorrow? What about the Brit who’s about to undergo a third reassignment? Same mental illness, writ large.

          • Naos

            August 13, 2017 at 7:30 pm

            “Did I say anything about religion?” You didn’t, but I don’t see any of you ever saying religious people don’t belong in the military for their delusions… so it’s pretty hypocritical.

            I don’t know what my own sex has to do with anything, at all. It’s not at relevant to the discussion, as the details wouldn’t change a thing.

            “In fact, there are studies that indicate a HIGHER suicide rate for those that have gone through reassignment surgery.” First off, citation needed, asshole. Second, what do you propose? Exactly, you got nothing, do you? I know transgender individuals who transitioned and are far better off. Hell, they’d be dead if it wasn’t for transition. Funny, how even conservatives like Hunter Avallone acknowledge that transition does help people with their dysphoria.

            “Gender fluid” is not an actual thing, and is really just trend-hopping little twats who try to feel special. And yeah, I’m going to back to calling you a cunt. And I’m going to call you a girl all I want to. If that offends you, fuck you, I don’t care.

          • Knights Hawk

            August 13, 2017 at 9:40 pm

            If there was a religion with a 40% rate of attempted suicide you can bet I’d be against their inclusion in the military, so a statement I didn’t make to begin with is hardly hypocritical.
            As far as what you are, I was just trying to understand your motivation, and I can see you’re highly motivated. Either you’re “trans”, or you have a close family member that is. Doesn’t matter to me, but I’m betting it’s you.
            I’ve done my research (due to the aforementioned acquaintance), and I’m not going to do yours. Look it up, or don’t, doesn’t matter to me and doesn’t change the facts.
            I don’t care what you call me, you are less than nothing to me. You’re not wrapped very tight, that’s plain to see, and I don’t really care about the opinions of those too crazy to have a legitimate one. Truth is, your equating a person to a crude name for a body part tells me all I need to know about your character, or more specifically your lack of character. The fact that you fall back onto name calling instead of discussion tells me about your intellect, or more specifically your lack of it.
            Good luck with your reassignment, if that is what you seek. You will still, though, be the sex/gender you started as. You will just be incomplete physically as well as mentally.

          • Naos

            August 13, 2017 at 11:32 pm

            No, it is. You just said “mentally ill”. You can easily argue religious people are just as delusional as a schizophrenic.

            Not how it works. You clearly have no clue about burden of proof. Along with that, those desiring transition, but are not able to get it or don’t yet have it, were reported to have increased levels of distress. The issue with what you’re referring to is that those studies report lifetime suicide attempts among those who have transitioned, and those who haven’t. Not prior to transition and after transition.

            See, you can’t insult someone’s intelligence when you use that wrong “your”, boo. Once again, being completely hypocritical with a lack of self-awareness.

          • Knights Hawk

            August 14, 2017 at 1:22 am

            English much? Your was the proper word to use in the context I was speaking. I did not intend to say “you are”, it’s your, possessive. Your act, not you are acting.
            My insult, as you call it, stands. It’s validity is affirmed.
            I’ve found all the proof needed to show me that you’re mentally ill.
            You’re not happy the way you are, you think you feel like the other. But see, you don’t know what that other feels like. You can’t. You just think it must be, since you don’t feel like you think you should.
            Most of us have some issue or the other, it’s just that most of us have a mind that’s able to deal with it. You don’t.
            I’m not saying you’re a bad person, I’m not saying it’s your fault (see the difference there?), I’m saying you’re mentally unstable. Your every thought is filtered through emotion, not reality. The instability could possibly be addressed through counseling and medication. It can not be addressed by surgically and hormonally altering your body.
            You seem to think your own statement about suicide is proof. It is not. It just shows that though it hasn’t happened yet, 40% means there’s pretty good chance that it will. Your own opinion is filtered through your mental illness. It is just as unstable and illogical as you are.

          • Naos

            August 14, 2017 at 1:48 am

            Oh, that is where you are wrong. “your equating a person to a crude name for a body part tells me all I need to know about your character, or more specifically your lack of character.” For “your” to be grammatically correct, you would need to add an “of” in between “equating” and “a”.

            “I’ve found all the proof needed to show me that you’re mentally ill.” Oh, are you a psychologist now? I’ve shown nothing indicating any mental disorders. You’re just making unfounded assumptions. And on the matter of sex-change surgery… I don’t give a fuck if people do it. It’s none of my business. Not harming them or anyone else. If it helps them, I say go for it. Tell me, does a man need a penis in life? They don’t. They need the urethra, yes, but not the penis. But if they’re not reproducing, there is not a required need for testicles or a penis.

            And no. My claim about suicide was saying that say claiming “transgender people attempt suicide at a rate of 40%”, or saying “transgender people attempt after transition” is completely inaccurate, because they record lifetime suicide attempts rather than before or after transition.

          • Knights Hawk

            August 14, 2017 at 4:36 pm

            Of was unnecessary. Try the sentence with you are, or you’re, you’ll see it doesn’t work.
            Of course I’m not a psychologist. Neither do I need to be a doctor to identify a compound fracture. You think you’re a gender that you’re not, you have gender dysphoria, gender dysphoria is a mental illness. Mental illness makes your brain wrong, it does not make your genitals wrong.
            You can’t make a male a female, you can’t make a female a male. Yes, a man needs a penis for sex, whether or not he’s reproducing. But adding a surgically constructed penis to a woman does not make her a man.
            Go ahead and get reassigned, it makes no difference to me. I hope it makes you feel better, I hope it eases your sick mind.
            But I’m still not going to play your little game and call you something that you’re not, and that you never will be. I’ll refer to Mr. Jenner as Kaitlyn if he wants, but I will not call him a woman.

          • Naos

            August 14, 2017 at 4:54 pm

            You don’t need sex though. And it’s clear with those who are reassigned that they clearly don’t need a penis for sex.

          • Knights Hawk

            August 14, 2017 at 7:13 pm

            Frequent ejaculation significantly lowers the chances of prostate cancer, kind of difficult to do that without a penis since the whole system was designed as a unit. So yes, a man needs sex.
            But go ahead and have your equipment removed, having no testicles also lowers the chances of prostate cancer.

          • Naos

            August 14, 2017 at 7:15 pm

            Chances. Meaning no, men do not need sex to live. If a man stays a virgin, they’re not guaranteed to die from that.

          • Knights Hawk

            August 14, 2017 at 10:07 pm

            Much like being a transgender, lack of ejaculation increases the chance of an earlier than necessary death.

          • Naos

            August 14, 2017 at 10:13 pm

            I could make the same case about say, loneliness. Or sleep deprivation. I don’t see an active effort to stop either of those things.

          • Knights Hawk

            August 15, 2017 at 3:26 pm

            Really? There are all kinds of groups meant to bring people together through similar interests. Like those religions you seem to hate so much. Or hobby classes of one sort or another, charitable groups that sponsor activities, etc.
            But that wasn’t the topic, was it? Sex helps people lead happier healthier lives.
            Being trans does not.

          • Naos

            August 15, 2017 at 4:53 pm

            Yet, being trans and getting the surgery does seem to help those people. If you think it doesn’t, you’re just pulling shit out of your ass. Even conservatives like Hunter Avallone or Blaire White, both admit that it does.

            “Like those religions you seem to hate so much.” You know what the difference is? You’re trying to dictate what others do in their lives. I’m not. Will I think they’re completely gullible and kind of a moron for believing in a god blindly, and using their religion to dictate their morals? Yes. But they can do it if they want to. Unlike religious people, who on various occasions, would kick their children out or condemn them in general for being an atheist, or gay, or transgender. Plus, your point about “groups with similar interests” doesn’t always work. Because that’s under the implication that people that happen to have one interest in common will get along. When that’s not the case.

            And while sex does help burn calories, you can easily do that with exercise. Along with that, not everyone is going to have sex. There are ugly people out there that no one’s going to want to fuck. Nor does everyone want sex. Sir Isaac Newton might have died a virgin. He never married, and didn’t really interact with other humans in that way. He lived a pretty long, healthy life.

          • Knights Hawk

            August 16, 2017 at 1:56 am

            You ever been in a Walmart? Believe me, their’s a lid for every pot.

            You’ve got something else totally wrong, too. I’m trying to dictate nothing to anybody. I stated an opinion in response to another opinion. My stance has been the same all along: Gender Dysphoria is a mental illness. And nowhere have I said that reassignment surgery wouldn’t “help” somebody. I said it wouldn’t cure their mental illness. In fact, I’d say the mere wish to alter one’s body to mimic the body of the opposite sex is a sure sign that the mind is messed up. Go for it man, have it whacked. Or if you’re a biological woman, go get that addadicktome. Get those hormones added to your body to fool the cells into doing something foreign to them. Go ahead, I don’t care and wouldn’t tell you that you couldn’t.
            Go do all that, but you’re still going to be mentally ill.
            And you don’t put crazy folk in charge of guns, bombs, and defense of a nation. They don’t belong in the military.
            You don’t accept yourself the way you are, that’s fine, but I don’t have to accept you the way you think you want to be. And that’s fine, too, whether you like it or not.

          • Naos

            August 16, 2017 at 2:29 am

            “You ever been in a Walmart? Believe me, their’s a lid for every pot.” Yes, because the third-degree burn victim who’s an absolute asshole, and who happens to be intersex going to find someone. Wait, I doubt that.

            And again, it’s clear those 15,000 people were fine. You seem to be someone who respects the military. They protected you and all that? But if they happen to be transgender, fuck em, right? Those transgender veterans don’t deserve the same respect.

            “And you don’t put crazy folk in charge of guns, bombs, and defense of a nation. They don’t belong in the military.” Then, why is selective service still forcing transgender women to register? It’s clear they stopped giving a fuck then.

          • Knights Hawk

            August 16, 2017 at 3:41 am

            The “third-degree burn victim who’s an absolute asshole, and who happens to be intersex” will have an issue. Mostly because of being an asshole.
            But you do have to go to the very most extreme, don’t you?
            Look, there are winners and losers in life. It happens. Someone with mental illness has gotten the short end of the stick. Look at the poor folk who have a mental illness that makes them think they’re blind, or disabled. Some have went all the way to blinding themselves to fit the image their mental illness projects. Should we say, aww, poor you?
            After all, it’s no less real to them than your feelings that you’re the opposite sex is to you. Should we help them remove a leg? Intentionally paralyze them? Take out their eyes to make them happy? Or should we urge them to get psychological treatment, try to help them overcome their mental illness?
            Your particular mental illness is not new, just all the noise around it is. Society has no more obligation to cater and kowtow to you than it ever did, and no one has an obligation to accept you as something that you’re not. You’re less than 1/10 of 1 % of the population, when you take out all the trendies. Society has no need to change for you.

            “Then, why is selective service still forcing transgender women to register?” Because they’re males. There’s no such thing as a transgender woman, it’s a male, XY and all that. It’s a male with a mental illness, but it’s a male. All males that are not exempted register, get it? Males.
            If they fess up to their mental illness they won’t serve. If they’re found out, that’s what a Section 8 discharge is for: adjudicated to be mentally unfit for service.

          • Naos

            August 16, 2017 at 4:06 am

            I went to the extreme to try to make a point. That there is not someone for everyone. You can’t compare those conditions. Being blind, or cutting off their leg would cause a drastic change to how the person lives. What’s getting a transition going to do? Make you sit down when you piss? And maybe get a dilator for your vagina? Which wouldn’t a big deal anyway? Estimates indicate 0.3% of the population is transgender in the United States. That’s almost 1 million people. I mean, it’s odd how conservatives only care about the minority when it comes to elections. That’s when you constantly shout how the minority matters. But when it’s something you disagree with, they don’t matter. Also, you’ve shown how uneducated you were on this awhile ago. Such as assuming they cut off the penis. Which they don’t. If they did, it would also be cutting the urethra. A foolish move.

            Oh, no, there’s a such thing as a transgender woman, sorry. Another thing I’ve seen some conservatives admitting – that sex and gender are different. One in particular argued that they are different, but that gender is closely related to sex. And it’s interesting that acceptance is LGBT people has been on the rise, even among conservatives, while religion is on the downward trend.

            And you didn’t answer the “you don’t give a fuck about transgender veterans” point, because you really don’t. Good to know. Do you not care about veterans if they’re gay too?

          • Knights Hawk

            August 16, 2017 at 2:27 pm

            Same, extreme to make a point. I’m aware of how the surgery is performed, and they do indeed remove a great deal of the penis.
            What the transition is not going to do is cure your mental illness.
            As far as LGB, those are reality. If a guy likes to have sex with a guy that’s a real thing. Same for a woman. Same for a person that goes both ways. I can take a guy’s word for it that he likes to have sex with a guy. It’s certainly not normal, but it’s real.
            But a guy who THINKS he’s a woman, no. Because you’re not. All the surgery in the world will not make you a woman. All the surgery in the world will not make her a man.
            You may get a reasonable facsimile of the external genitalia, but that’s it. It doesn’t change your sex, or your gender. You’re mentally ill, and it won’t change that either.
            And I’m all for giving mental health care to ANY veteran who sees themselves as something they’re not. But reassignment surgery, no, because it won’t cure their mental illness.

          • Naos

            August 16, 2017 at 5:05 pm

            And once again, trying to portray yourself as an expert on mental illness. If it didn’t help at all, then why would doctors use that as the treatment? Right. It’d be like giving someone anti-depressants even though they know it’s not going to work. Or simply, giving someone Ibuprofen just cause.

          • Knights Hawk

            August 16, 2017 at 7:57 pm

            It may help ease someone’s psychological pain, like ibuprofen can help physical pain. But ibuprofen doesn’t heal a sprain, and reassignment doesn’t heal the mind. Like a placebo, it’s intent is to fool the mind.
            Mental illness is not healed by altering the body. You’re still ill, just in a different body. Maybe it’ll make you happy. For awhile. Maybe. But you’ll still be mentally ill, you still will not fit into society. You still won’t be a woman. You will be a physically altered male, in makeup.
            Gender Dysphoria DSM-5 302.85 (F64.9)

          • Naos

            August 16, 2017 at 8:02 pm

            Yet… “Gender dysphoria is not the same as gender nonconformity, which refers to behaviors not matching the gender norms or stereotypes of the gender assigned at birth. Examples of gender nonconformity (also referred to as gender expansiveness or gender creativity) include girls behaving and dressing in ways more socially expected of boys or occasional cross-dressing in adult men. Gender nonconformity is not a mental disorder. Gender dysphoria is also not the same being gay/lesbian.”

          • Knights Hawk

            August 16, 2017 at 9:37 pm

            We haven’t been discussing a tomboy, or a guy that likes to wear women’s panties. We’ve been discussing Gender Dysphoria, a mental illness.

          • Naos

            August 16, 2017 at 9:46 pm

            You were talking about gender nonconformity though. “You will be a physically altered male, in makeup.”

          • Knights Hawk

            August 16, 2017 at 10:00 pm

            No, that would be a male after reassignment. Of course, I was just assuming you were going to have your plumbing rearranged to be a female. If it’s the other way, you’ll be a woman who presumably would no longer be wearing makeup. Still a man, or still a woman, just with mismatched plumbing.

          • Naos

            August 16, 2017 at 10:16 pm

            And also with secondary characteristics, such as voice pitch, facial hair, wider or smaller hips, etc.

          • Knights Hawk

            August 16, 2017 at 10:49 pm

            Accomplished with hormonal therapy. And, of course, lacking the organs to secrete the naturally occurring hormones their body formerly produced.
            Of course, too, they’re still mentally ill. Surgery won’tt change it, neither will estrogen.

          • Naos

            August 16, 2017 at 11:00 pm

            Actually, no. There are some men who can’t grow facial hair, and women who do. Men with a countertenor vocal range (such as Mitch Grassi) will sound like women when they speak. There are women who have the broad shoulders of men, and men who have the wider hips and narrow shoulders indicative of women.

            And all of this can be natural.

          • Knights Hawk

            August 16, 2017 at 11:18 pm

            We have short men and tall women, too!
            You just keep trying to get away from the point: Gender Dysphoria is a mental illness.

          • Naos

            August 16, 2017 at 11:26 pm

            Different case. Height’s not necessarily a defining characteristic. All those ones I mentioned are. And it may be a mental illness, but you people are a cancer, so…

          • Knights Hawk

            August 16, 2017 at 11:58 pm

            And they’re all normal variations.
            Gender Dysphoria is ABnormal. Mental illness is by definition ABnormal.

          • Naos

            August 17, 2017 at 12:16 am

            No, opposite characteristics are not normal. They’re called “secondary sex characteristics” for a reason.

          • Knights Hawk

            August 17, 2017 at 12:49 am

            I see.
            Broadly occurring secondary sex characteristics, like narrow shoulders or wide hips on a guy, are germane. Though not the norm, they aren’t really abnormal. Abnormal indicates an undesirable deviation, like Gender Dysphoria. Ever hear of a woman that committed suicide because she had broad shoulders?
            Defining sex characteristics, like a naturally occurring penis on a male, are no germanet.
            I think, by all means, you should seek what you think will make you happy. It might even give some comfort to the rest of us.
            You should also not serve in the military. Since, you know, Gender Dysphoria IS a mental illness.

          • Naos

            August 17, 2017 at 12:57 am

            As our society is so focused on looks and gender roles, looking feminine as a male or masculine as a female can lead to depression, and yes, suicide. And yes, secondary sex characteristics that occur in someone opposite to their sex is considered extremely abnormal.

            And if it does get removed from the DSM, which there is a good possibility it will (as they had to change the name to remove the stigma), would you still call it a mental illness?

          • Knights Hawk

            August 17, 2017 at 1:35 am

            Who hasn’t known an effeminate guy? Or a tomboy?
            No, that isn’t considered “extremely abnormal”. Except by those trying to normalize their own condition.
            And yes, I will. That the psychiatrists would bend to politically correct pressure would not be surprising
            Are you aware that there’s currently people trying to get pedophilia reclassified? Psychologists who say that it’s really not aberrant, columnists who say it’s not atypical. It is, after all, a much more common mental illness than Gender Dysphoria.

          • Naos

            August 17, 2017 at 5:14 am

            You can’t compare somebody who just detracts from gender roles to someone who literally carries traits of the opposite gender. Tomboys don’t grow facial hair. They also typically have the wider hips and narrow shoulders. They just have short hair and wear “boy clothes”.

            You cannot compare pedophilia to gender dysphoria. Mental illnesses, in and of themselves, cause harm to the person affected, or someone else as a result. The condition of pedophilia can lead to harming others. Gender dysphoria cannot cause true harm to yourself or others. I guess psychologists who just declassified homosexuality should just put it back on there, huh? Why don’t we just go back to shock therapy while we’re at it? Why did they bother changing the name of “gender identity disorder”, and stopped calling it a sexual disorder, if it wasn’t going to make a difference? There are plenty of other conditions that have been removed or edited, so what’s the issue? Oh, right, you know more than psychologists. Where’s your psychology degree?

          • Knights Hawk

            August 18, 2017 at 1:20 am

            You’re the one who spoke of gender nonconformity.
            Sure, I can compare the two. They’re both a mental illness. Society seems to be bending over for one even as we persecute the other.
            Possibly homosexuality should be put back. It can’t be said to be a properly functioning mind, can it? The job of any organism is to procreate, a mental state that would preclude the organisms primary function isn’t quite right. Still, a preference for the same sex can pretty much be proven. If you’re a guy and your erotic preferences include a penis and hairy butts, if you say you’re gay I believe you.
            You, though, think you’re a woman. You’re not. You can in no way prove that you are. I don’t care if you don’t have a low voice and body hair, what you also don’t have is XX chromosomes.
            Political pressure is the reason the classification of homosexuality was changed from it’s prior status. There is still no medical evidence that proves that it’s not a mental illness. What some studies indicate are rebutted by other studies. What is indicated is that it can be nature or nurture.
            Gender Identity Disorder (you think you’re something you’re not) and Gender Dysphoria (you’re not satisfied with what you are), is it eight ounces or a half pint?
            But go ahead and it it all rearranged, you’re still going to have a mental illness. That’s what the psyches say.

          • Naos

            August 18, 2017 at 1:56 am

            No, because once again. Mental illnesses cause harm to the one affected by it, or others. Gender dysphoria and homosexuality don’t do either of those. Plus, there is no way to actually get rid of homosexuality. It’s impossible, and is naturally occurring. You could argue it’s a form of population control. By your logic, if you don’t want to fuck people, you have a mental disorder. Mental disorder: “a behavioral or mental pattern that may cause suffering or a poor ability to function in life.” And being gay isn’t going to cause suffering or a poor ability to function in life.

            Then why doesn’t that work for every other mental disorder out there? Just using pressure to declassify it? Right.

            “Society seems to be bending over for one even as we persecute the other.” And again, gender dysphoria, and getting the transition to do so, causes no harm to anyone else, or themselves. There is literally no reason to give a fuck. Pedophilia on the other hand, acting out on those desires can harm children.

            But hey, if we’re all psychologists now: You have a mental disorder. Sorry, you just do.

          • Knights Hawk

            August 19, 2017 at 11:07 am

            Possible, since I’ve tried to have a continuing discussion with you.
            Yours, though, is recognized and categorized.
            And you still don’t belong in the military.

          • Naos

            August 19, 2017 at 2:14 pm

            Yet they allow those with depression if they haven’t experienced symptoms in a certain amount of time. You haven’t given actual reasons why they should be, except a “mental disorder”. You haven’t shown in any way that they would be impaired. You’re just being a hateful fuck, and this thread has shown that.

          • Knights Hawk

            August 21, 2017 at 12:07 pm

            I’d bet you’re one of those who say we should be taking more action to keep mentally ill people from having guns, and you want to put mentally ill people into a job with guns and bombs.
            Like I said, I want your mind healed, and altering your body won’t do that. I have no hate for you, I have pity.
            Tell me, which way is your door swinging? Parts wise, are you having homosexual sex now, or will it be homosexual sex after the surgery?

          • Naos

            August 21, 2017 at 2:49 pm

            I don’t believe anyone should be having guns unless you’re law enforcement or the military, unless there is heavy, strict regulation (much like how Japan does it), but nice assumption.

            “Like I said, I want your mind healed, and altering your body won’t do that.” And once again, providing no alternative. And whether it’s homosexual or not is entirely irrelevant.

          • Knights Hawk

            August 24, 2017 at 12:24 pm

            So you want to put folks with a mental illness in the military and give them guns?
            I believe what you want even more is for the military to pay for any change you think you need. Nice try, but it’s not our obligation to give you free medical care, room and board, etc., while you shirk your duties.
            Is “Chelsea” your hero? He shouldn’t have been changed, he should have been shot for being a traitor.

          • Naos

            August 24, 2017 at 5:48 pm

            But not every transgender transitioned during military service. Some did it prior, so that argument is out the window. Along with that, maybe the military should stop paying for college, viagra, and the tons of useless weapons as well.

          • Knights Hawk

            August 24, 2017 at 6:24 pm

            The primary purpose of the military is to kill people and blow things up. Weapons are needed to project force.
            Mentally ill people that are confused about what sex they are aren’t needed. Or wanted.

          • Naos

            August 24, 2017 at 6:40 pm

            Interesting, considering not a lot of military people were actually against this. According to VoteVets, an organization backed by more than half a million military veterans, had a poll. According to the poll, 69% agreed that they should be allowed to serve if they can do the job. Whereas 22% said they should be removed. 86% of Democrats, 48% of Republicans, and 69% of those affiliated with other parties, polled, agreed to it. 10% of the Democrats polled say they should be banned, and 39% of the Republicans polled.

            Why did plenty of retired military generals and admirals condemn the ban? Once again, you’re proving you don’t care about all veterans. You only care about those go with your agenda. If they are a transgender person, you’re not going to give a fuck about them. For a party so much in support of killing people with military force, and about the people doing those killings, I’m surprised you don’t respect them.

          • Knights Hawk

            August 27, 2017 at 3:59 am

            You’re wrong there, spunky. I care very much about the veterans, and the active duty service members. Those already in are entitled to all the benefits they accrued. There just shouldn’t be any more accrual.
            Plenty of retired generals and admirals condemned the order to let them serve openly, too, but I’m guessing those are immaterial to you. You care nothing about any other service member, only the freaks. Yeah, freaks.
            No marine I’ve ever spoke to wants to be in a hide with a chick with a dick. Unit cohesion is not enhanced by having a chick with a beard and a bra in your platoon.
            And if you haven’t cottoned to it yet, we don’t run the military with a vote on how things are going to be done, the law comes down the line.
            I’m sure you were fine when the last guy was issuing orders. But, as someone once said, elections have consequences.

          • Naos

            August 27, 2017 at 4:17 am

            “I care very much about the veterans, and the active duty service members.” I wouldn’t call someone I cared about a freak. Would you? And I actually never cared about the military as a whole. Like you bitch about tax dollars going to medical care and welfare, I don’t believe my money should go to killing people.

            “The law comes down the line.” A tweet is not law, sorry, hun. I don’t support everyone’s every single decision just because they’re of a particular party, unlike what it seems like for you (considering you seem to have every single conservative ideal in existence). I’ve supported Republican politicians and their policies or advocacy in the past. I’m currently in support for Arnold Schwarzenegger for the attention that he’s trying to bring to the environment, and despite never really being into politics like he was used to be, he’s still giving messages I agree with. I certainly think Obama was an improvement over Bush Jr., who was absolute garbage, doesn’t mean I think Obama was the best president of all time like people are trying to portray Trump.

          • Knights Hawk

            August 27, 2017 at 12:15 pm

            Trump wasn’t my candidate, but he is my president. Just as, sadly, Obama was.
            Trump uses his tweets to broadcast his thoughts, but it’s written directives that will flow down through the generals that have the force of law within the military.
            Just as Obama told them to do it, Trump can tell them not to.
            Yes, I’m extremely conservative on a federal level, both socially and fiscally. National defense is one of the few areas that I think the federal government should be involved in. Luckily, you’re in no way in charge of the military, else I’m sure we would still be British.
            On a local level I’m extremely liberal. I believe in spending our money where it does the most good, at home.

        • MikeO

          August 12, 2017 at 7:05 pm

          The report is not about transgenders. My comment is not about transgenders. You are the one comparing transgenders to 75 year olds.

          • Naos

            August 12, 2017 at 7:09 pm

            My comment was about transgenders, so I assumed your comment regarding “discrimination” applied to transgenders.

          • MikeO

            August 12, 2017 at 7:13 pm

            Your comment was that “Either discrimination is fine, or it’s not. You can’t have both.”
            My comment was that some discrimination was necessary. So you CAN have both.

    • Tala Espada

      August 12, 2017 at 5:47 pm

      lol banning men is a great way to have your country taken over lol. I’m sorry but women physically are inferior. And when it comes time to deploy, when are gonna get themselves knocked up to avoid real combat.

      • Naos

        August 12, 2017 at 6:25 pm

        Not all women are physically inferior. I’ve known women who have been deployed, but hey, I guess the only qualification you should need for military, is a penis. Why should someone be forced into military service, just because they have a cock?

        • Minerverse

          August 13, 2017 at 12:34 am

          Yes, and not all Chinese people are short. But there’s a reason you don’t see them in the NBA. If you want a strong army, you NEED men on the front.

          “I guess the only qualification you should need for military, is a penis.”
          You’re incredibly f__king stupid. It’s not the penis, it’s the 30% stronger on average. If women were 30% strong on average, THEY’D be the soldiers we want. It’s not sexism, it’s the f__king laws of physics you moron.

          When the world’s strongest woman can walk into a bar, pick a random guy, arm wrestle him AND LOSE, I think we can say that men are on average, physically stronger. If a woman can pass the same test as a man, absolutely let her into the army. But if she can’t pass that test, she shouldn’t be a soldier.

          • Naos

            August 13, 2017 at 1:33 am

            I don’t think you know what the laws of physics are. Oh, and Yao Ming doesn’t exist?

            And yes, it is really the main qualification you need. If you got a cock, it doesn’t matter if you’re the weakest man on the planet. You’d still be drafted.

        • Bibliotheca ab Nova Roma

          August 13, 2017 at 1:32 am

          Oh. Ohhhh. You’re nuts. I see…

          PS: yes, all women, on the planet, are weaker than any uninjured male soldier. Period. Suggesting otherwise isn’t even silly, it’s anti-scientific lunacy. Oh, and just because a woman has “deployed “…seriously, wtf were you trying to imply? That “deploying” somehow makes women stronger? Jesus, you’re a special kind of stupid. Oh, and pretending not to comprehend that there’s a very clear, stark difference between a normal, healthy male and a “trans” person? Yeah, I’m done. Too much stupidity and blatant, shameless intellectual dishonesty.

          • Naos

            August 13, 2017 at 1:40 am

            I was referring to the “when are gonna get themselves knocked up to avoid real combat.” When that’s not what women do. And you’re making completely unsourced claims.

          • Victor Kilo

            August 13, 2017 at 1:25 pm

            Actually, I know several individuals who are/were officers in various military services who would testify, privately, that that is very much what women do. But, that’s what happens in the real world, not in the demented fantasy world where your politics are formulated.

          • bookish1

            August 13, 2017 at 5:04 pm

            Females in the military do just that.

          • Naos

            August 13, 2017 at 5:37 pm

            Prove that a majority or even plurality of women do that.

        • Charles Perigord

          August 13, 2017 at 2:15 pm

          Naos – nobody is “forced into military service” in the United States. President Nixon abolished the draft and went with an all-volunteer army over 40 years ago. He had the help of Congress in this, of course.

          • Naos

            August 13, 2017 at 5:35 pm

            Yeah, because selective service doesn’t exist. Where the only qualifications is you need is be 18 and have a penis.

        • bookish1

          August 13, 2017 at 5:03 pm

          Ideally, you should have enough upper body strength to haul a wounded soldier out of harm’s way.

          • Naos

            August 13, 2017 at 5:36 pm

            So, I shouldn’t ever serve in the military. My strength is on that of a woman’s. Cool, I’ll let them know that if a draft happens.

        • Redback

          August 22, 2017 at 6:45 pm

          if the enemy ever decided to not kill ya right away, woman!! what do ya think there going to do to ya, give ya tea and biscuits ! No they’ll hand you around to all the men for raping !! LOL

          • Naos

            August 22, 2017 at 7:06 pm

            First off, that’s a war crime. Second, oh, like men don’t rape other men. That never happens.

        • Raj Seth

          September 1, 2017 at 7:56 am

          Bullshit. At one go, if a female recruit can clear 50+ pushups, 60+ situps and complete a 2 mile run in under 17 minutes, then she is eligible to join the Armed Forces.
          And thats just a higher baseline set for women, for men its even higher and tougher.
          You see Infantry is not so glamourish as you see in the movies, sitcoms or videogames.

          It requires grit, stamina, mental fortitude and all around toughness both mental and physical. Physicality is a core aspect of the Land based Army because often times you’d be tasked to set up camp in terrain where HUMVEES couldn’t venture or fight in places where Tanks would never fight.

          It also means carrying a backpack which weighs 30+ kg, extra ammo, rations, gun spares, equipment and personal belongings during combat operations over vast distances.

          Having a bunch of physically fit, athletic women in the Army is great and all but the Army does not want one or two ‘outliners’ rather it wants ‘Battalions’ of physically fit people who would not hestitate to take the fight to the enemy and follow orders even when hell breaks down on them.

          Nobody in the Army decides personally to exclude a person just because of a dick or vagina, rather women have not been given Infantry roles is because they failed to live up to the Set standards of the Military.

          But why just join the Army? Why not the Airforce?

    • nemo no-one

      August 12, 2017 at 6:55 pm

      Ok, first off, genius, we are talking about two different armies here. Banning transgendered people is being done by the U.S military, whilst this article is about the AUSTRALIAN military not recruiting men. You are clearly a Cultural Marxist so logic and comprehension are skills we can’t expect you to possess.
      As for ‘not all women are physically inferior’, clearly you also don’t understand the concept of averages. I can’t fix your stupid. It is way too profound.

      • Naos

        August 12, 2017 at 6:58 pm

        I like how all you people can do is label people with “Marxist” or “communist”, when you clearly don’t even know what those words mean.

        I was referring to all of the people bitching about men not being recruited, but being positive about 15,000 transgender soldiers being fired without legitimate reason.

        • Dima Bogdan

          August 13, 2017 at 3:08 am

          Wonder if 10 billion tax payers dollars for medical procedures would be a good enough reason for you. However, you ARE a Marxist, and I do know the worst of this definition!

          • Naos

            August 13, 2017 at 3:12 am

            Okay, tell me exactly what it means, and how it applies to me. Come on. Bet you can’t do it.

        • Knights Hawk

          August 13, 2017 at 4:36 am

          It’s likely that 6000 of those will at least attempt suicide. They’re not trans anything, they’re mentally ill.
          That’s not the type that you want to arm, and you can’t rely on their stability. Yes, sometimes discrimination is OK.

          • Naos

            August 13, 2017 at 4:40 am

            Well, considering they were fired without legitimate reason, I see suicide as being pretty reasonable. And 6000? You literally just pulled a random number out of your ass. And I bet you wouldn’t call religious people mentally ill, would you?

          • Knights Hawk

            August 13, 2017 at 11:21 am

            40% of “transgenders” attempt suicide. 40% of 15,000 is 6000.
            Gender dysphoria is a mental illness. Thinking suicide is reasonable indicates you’re not wrapped very tight, too.

          • Naos

            August 13, 2017 at 4:42 pm

            So, by your own logic, being Japanese means you have a mental illness. I mean, 15.4 per 100,000 people is quite high on the matter of countries. You’re not taking into account other factors, such as other mental disorders, and how family and friends react to their transition. Or just people in general. It’s also not differentiating post-op and pre-op. People like you are part of the reason suicide rates are so high. Because you’re basically invalidating them.

        • bookish1

          August 13, 2017 at 5:01 pm

          How did it get to be 15,000?
          First it was a few hundred, then a few thousand — and now it’s up to 15,000?
          I doubt there are even 15,000 transgenders in the entire country.

          • Naos

            August 13, 2017 at 5:33 pm

            According to most sources, 0.3 percent of the United States is transgender. Which translates to roughly 969,000. The numbers vary widely, I just used the first number I found. But if you want a direct source, according to UCLA School of Law, there have been 150,000 transgenders in the armed forces, with 134,000 being veterans, 8,800 being on active duty, and 6,700 on reserve. Well, used to be before they got fired.

        • Mark Weaver

          August 14, 2017 at 12:20 am

          Because they are mentally ill thus explaining their high rates of suicide, not to mention their sex change operations would be funded by US tax payers. Legitimate enough big guy?

          • Naos

            August 14, 2017 at 12:37 am

            Correlation does not imply causation. Just because a certain has a high rate of attempted suicide, it does not mean everyone of that group is mentally ill. Along with that, so, you’re better off paying for viagra, college, and the plenty of useless planes the military spent money on.

    • I_h8_disqus

      August 13, 2017 at 1:14 am

      I say put all military applicants through the same physical and psychological testing. If they fail, they fail. If you apply with a medical condition that will cost the military thousands that would be enough of a reason to fail.

      • Naos

        August 13, 2017 at 1:42 am

        So, if you got erectile dysfunction, fuck you, right? They spend far higher on Viagra than they do transgender treatments. They should also not offer college. Also costs them a lot of money.

        • I_h8_disqus

          August 13, 2017 at 5:09 pm

          If a young man is in need of Viagra, we will see if he can pass the medical physical. However, there is no reason for the military to pay for a medicine that doesn’t heal. The offer of college tuition was used to recruit. I would have no issue with recruitment efforts being eliminated. What you should focus on is reducing the military instead of sending more people into harm’s way.

    • Charles Perigord

      August 13, 2017 at 2:11 pm

      Naos – you’re confusing legal rights with the ability to be a good soldier. Men have, on average, twice the upper body strength and 150% of the lower body strength of women, on average. Australia’s male exclusion policy insures that they are recruiting significantly weaker soldiers than most other nations, so when their soldiers run out of bullets on the battlefield, their chances of surviving are not good.


      The Social Justice Warriors who enacted the first federal anti-discrimination laws recognized that sometimes there are good reasons to differentiate, and they introduced the concept of “bona fide occupational qualification” as an exception to the general anti-discrimination rules. For example, refusing to hire men as bra-fitters would be a bona fide occupational qualification, because women shopping for bras don’t want strange men seeing or touching their tits.

      • Naos

        August 13, 2017 at 5:23 pm

        “For example, refusing to hire men as bra-fitters would be a bona fide occupational qualification, because women shopping for bras don’t want strange men seeing or touching their boobs.” Now, that’s an entirely incorrect assumption. Some women just don’t give a fuck. And often, if the man is feminine, they tend to care about less.

        Then the military should not be considered an “honourable” occupation. Why should men be the only ones allowed in those kind of occupations? And I can’t think of a lot of people arguing men should be restricted from jobs.

  6. Steve Obeda

    August 12, 2017 at 4:11 pm

    This is the action of a military that never expects to see any action.

    • nemo no-one

      August 12, 2017 at 6:46 pm

      Exactly; the military in peacetime is a good gig with lots of perks. And if a war comes, they are all going to get pregnant in order to avoid the front line.

      • breandan

        August 13, 2017 at 1:48 pm

        I suppose the only good to come out of that situation is that some hideous and horny guys can get a lot of easy action near the army posts.

      • bloke

        September 30, 2017 at 8:48 am

        and if women are on the front line , they will be raped and killed.

  7. True.Epic.Crusader

    August 12, 2017 at 4:42 pm

    Did I just walk into the Twilight Zone?
    …that’s what I ask myself every time I hear about the libtards doing something.
    This is just something else, though. Jesus.

  8. jane171307

    August 12, 2017 at 4:51 pm

    Never mind what’s best for the country’s defense, they’ve got to make sure they meet a quota. I’m going to try to forget I read yet another article about the insanity of political correctness.

  9. Jena Witherson

    August 12, 2017 at 4:55 pm

    Can we send all those rabid feminazis to Australia? This country is turning into their ideal utopia. All they need now getting all the cucked men from around the world to work all day while the can be lazy. That and send all the “peaceful” refugees down there too.

    • Tony

      August 12, 2017 at 9:24 pm

      Pass lol, We already have enough “Peaceful Refugee’s” thanks.
      The Leftards are a noisy minority in Australia but sadly many have wormed their way to positions of power and most of the Spineless politicians leave them alone.

      • rusty

        August 14, 2017 at 5:20 pm

        I think you underestimate how much control the left have. Government, education, media. There are many organisations (Google, Microsoft). Even look at any Telstra store, chemist warehouse, Priceline. It’s hardcore. You think it’s a minority??

        • Tony

          August 14, 2017 at 6:33 pm

          Rusty thats the Political correctness stick compliance at work although I agree with Silicon Valley being far left.
          The Govt/Education and even Medical I agree are largely staffed by left indoctrinated people too but that’s systemic mostly.

  10. Gabriel White

    August 12, 2017 at 5:20 pm

    Dear christ what happened to my nation, hopefully the bastards end up crucified for this

  11. Robin of Hood

    August 12, 2017 at 5:25 pm

    Enjoying the decline of Western Civilisation? I am.

  12. TOB

    August 12, 2017 at 5:49 pm

    This story isn’t true. What a douchebag writer.

    • Unlucky#

      August 12, 2017 at 6:33 pm

      Can you prove that it isn’t true?

    • nemo no-one

      August 12, 2017 at 6:43 pm

      I’m Australian and I can assure you it IS true. They are aiming for 25% women in all three services.

  13. aloha snackbar

    August 12, 2017 at 6:31 pm

    ok, can we just have the rapture already?

    • Victor Kilo

      August 13, 2017 at 1:21 pm

      Or SMOD. I would totally welcome SMOD.

  14. tbrec63387

    August 12, 2017 at 6:49 pm

    The last thing I think of when I think Australia is “army.”

    • Alex Mackenzie

      August 13, 2017 at 5:44 am

      well you’re an idiot look up Gallipoli for starters & then look up the war with Japan, without even looking I just know you’re American because that type of dumb only happens there

      • breandan

        August 13, 2017 at 1:40 pm

        Alex, there’s no need to be an Ahole or anti-US bigot (feel free to refuse US help when the next neighbor feels expansive).
        He was only commenting on word association. When I think of Island nations (UK, Japan, Australia, Ireland, Cuba, etc) I don’t think of them as having an army first thing. I usually think of navy or coast guard first (if anything military).
        I may be a ‘dumb American’ but I don’t remember Australia having any land (air or naval) battles recently and you mentioning a 100 year old battle shows that you can’t think of anything more recent.

        • Bill Lee

          August 13, 2017 at 3:39 pm

          The Australian Army fought in Vietnam Breandon as well as WW2 and they did bloody well. I’m not having a go at America either, I’m a Brit who loves the US and everything you’ve done for the free world.

          • breandan

            August 13, 2017 at 4:15 pm

            Thanks Bill. I knew about WW2 and Gallipoli (thanks both to Bryan Brown) but not Vietnam.

          • vrixithalis

            August 15, 2017 at 10:02 pm

            Aussie troops went to Iraq and Afghanistan too…

          • breandan

            August 19, 2017 at 2:27 pm

            Yes, Australia has an army.

            The original poster said the last thing he thought about when Australia came to mind was “army”. That’s his thought process but I don’t think he’s wrong. My first thought is a beach, or the Outback, or that red thing, or kangaroos, or koalas, or some of the cities, or penal colony, or certain celebrities, etc. Army is not the first thing that comes to mind. That’s not a bad thing.

            The fact remains that Alan Mackenzie was being rude to slander all Americans as dumb because he thinks we’re supposed to think “ARMY” when we think of Australia.

      • bookish1

        August 13, 2017 at 4:59 pm

        That’s historical.
        Recent Australian history doesn’t include much military action.

  15. tbrec63387

    August 12, 2017 at 6:54 pm

    Size‎: ‎30,764 (Regular); 14,662 (Active Reserve) – impressive

  16. Chesapeake

    August 12, 2017 at 9:19 pm

    Who was the genius that made this decision? Did you see the women recruited for the Army Rangers and their success? Men have to be at the top of their mental and physical ability to make it in the Rangers. Most men can beat women physically even the weakest man can beat most women. See the problem?

    • Naos

      August 13, 2017 at 3:14 am

      Nope, I cannot beat most women in feats of physical strength. So…

  17. ranterator

    August 12, 2017 at 10:59 pm

    I guess the Australian military wants more women in their military for the Islamists to rape and behead…

    • Charles Perigord

      August 13, 2017 at 2:02 pm

      ranterator – more likely they want a smaller number of white Australians to be born in the next generation, due to able bodied white women joining the army and getting killed before they can start families. I don’t think non-white Australian women are likely to sign up in significant numbers. The fact that they haven’t fought a war in over 50 years is no predictor of what the future holds.

  18. Minerverse

    August 13, 2017 at 12:30 am

    I’m all for it. If women are so keen to prove that they are men, I’m happy for them to become cannon fodder. You women can take all the responsibilities that men have had to shoulder for all of history. Time for us to relax, shop, watch day time television, eat carbs and turn into a land whale on our partners, excoriate our partners for never being home yet not making enough money so we can buy frivolous shit we don’t need. You want the leadership roles ladies, have at it. You’ll learn that it’s not a privilege at all, but a burden. It’s time to put down the tools men and let the world go to seed with women at the helm. I officially quit.

    • rusty

      August 14, 2017 at 5:16 pm

      Bad attitude. Hating women and wanting them to be cannon fodder is vile.
      The quota is the issue. Women should have the right to serve as much as men, as long as those selected have the physical ability (and plenty did it).
      This is a war against the left, not against gender or skin colour.
      You know how people talked about the radical right? Well, that’s what the left has become! Radical. But rhey have almost absolute control of the media. It’s insane! Dangerous times.

      • Minerverse

        August 15, 2017 at 11:24 pm

        “Bad attitude.”
        Not an argument.

        “Hating women and wanting them to be cannon fodder is vile”
        Also not an argument. Firstly, I don’t hate women. Secondly, I want them to equally be cannon fodder as men are and have been since, ever. Seriously, I say let them at it. Maybe when women are being mowed down in wars at the same rates men are, our societies might have the impetus to rethink throwing citizens into needless conflictsthat only feather the nests of the people who wage said wars.

        “Women should have the right to serve as much as men, as long as those selected have the physical ability”
        Yep, that’s what I said. If they want it so bad, let them at it.

        “You know how people talked about the radical right? blah blah blah…”
        WTF? Sounds like you’re having a conversation with the voices in your head. Like masturbation, you should do that in private. I’ll leave you to it.

        • jonah

          August 18, 2017 at 3:32 pm

          Soon as conflict starts, they’re going to have a tsunami of pregnancies and then they’ll scramble to find male recruits, or worst-case, conscripts. They’ll just consume the tax resources and attention for now, let someone else do the heavy lifting once reality intrudes. That said, can’t wait to see how idiotic this gets before it implodes either by war, injury settlements, harassment claims, absenteeism, or special and expensive demands…

          ” It’s time to put down the tools men and let the world go to seed with women at the helm. I officially quit.” – Cheers!

    • ReeferMaverick

      September 8, 2017 at 3:38 am

      Lol….as soon as war happens at LEAST 20% will become pregnant as fast as they can. And the others will all of a sudden be shifted to guard posts as far from the front line as we can get em.

      This isnt a play for front line combat roles…its a play to get female recruits into cushy non combat roles and have them go through combat TRAINING and quickly be promoted OUT of combat.

      Girl joins, goes to combat taining gets passed no matter what. Is promoted to Corporal almost immediately after her training is over. She gets put on a guard duty close to be not in the thick of some hostile area or another. She gets promoted quickly Sgt. That’s her first year in the miltary.

      2nd year. Attached to a Major as assistant. Promoted to Staff Sargeant immediately on assignment to the Major. Spends 6 months with him and is sent to OCS. She is graduated no matter what but she has a melt down and they gotta postone the training but regardless 6 months later she is a 2nd lt.

      3rd year. She is now assigned to a Colonel as an assistant (along with his other SSG assistant he actually realies on) 6 months later is promoted to 1st lt. She is now brought back stateside for some function (training, public relations expert, IT coordinator whatever. 6 months of that and is promoted to Captain.

      4th year. She is assigned to a general as an assitant upon arrival she is promoted to Major. She’s gotta do that for a year and if shes decides to go career and hey “why not?” she is told the sky is the limit .

      5th year… Some BS assisgnemtn you get the idea. at the end she’s a COL.

      6th year… Now they gotta slow down but just a bit she stays COL.

      7th year…. She makes history as the fastest Brigadier General in history.

      8th year… She “advises” the president on “winning hearts and minds” and is promoted to Major General for her “cunning insight into modern day combat” and is a vital resource in the election errr the “ever changing modern battlefield.”

  19. Caivs Ivlivs

    August 13, 2017 at 2:20 am

    Will be those weemean actually fighting or just running away? Australia will be defeated by an army of action figures.

  20. Dima Bogdan

    August 13, 2017 at 3:10 am

    And I can hardly wait for an entire squad on period, in the red zone, facing ISIS, for example. Oh, that ought to be great!

  21. vladtheimpaler2

    August 13, 2017 at 3:13 am

    Someone must have seen the island of Themyscira from wonder woman movie and thought hey why not.

  22. Alex Mackenzie

    August 13, 2017 at 5:45 am

    anybody who believes this is retarded

  23. Mark Jackson

    August 13, 2017 at 10:24 am

    Good. Let women have the same privilege as men and go out there and die to defend the rights they have. They constantly bitch, moan and wail about equality…I say give them what they want…with both barrels. They want men to be more “feminized”? Great, we’ll stay at home with the kiddies and they can go fight for God and country. Besides, what guy doesn’t like a good “cat-fight”?
    Does this mean that hair pulling and scratching now becomes part of basic training of hand to hand combat skills?

  24. Hairatic Rick

    August 13, 2017 at 10:48 am

    No big deal. When war comes , it always does, the women will play the women card, jump ship, and men will be drafted to come in and save the day … As always! Women need feminist because many women are beta humans who are hopelessly hopeless. Was not always like that back when evolution was allowed to weed out the betas among us. Time will out, always does. ????

  25. M&M

    August 13, 2017 at 1:33 pm

    this should reduce feminism and liberals in females. But you may see more men wearing hoop earrings

  26. breandan

    August 13, 2017 at 1:46 pm

    As a man, I think it’s a great idea. Let’s have real equality rather than cafeteria equality with women choosing which equal rights they want.
    Start drafting women too and let the men stay at home to keep the home fires burning and mind the children. Only those with female genitals or those who identify as women need be drafted.
    Gender is only a mental construct anyway, right?

  27. tn_tea _ partyer_420

    August 13, 2017 at 2:30 pm

    Are there any adults left running the Western world?

    • jackp_7788

      August 14, 2017 at 6:11 am

      Oh, yes, but they mostly have no backbone

  28. Dante Alighieri ????

    August 14, 2017 at 8:05 am

    Objective data on this subject is appealingly meager. If they’re wrong on this, it means more needless fatalities.

  29. AlexCorvidae

    August 14, 2017 at 12:12 pm

    Maybe we should take over Australia. It’d make a good 50th state when calexit happens. Please God, make calexit happen.

    • Naos

      August 17, 2017 at 5:16 am

      Yeah, fuck up the economy by getting rid of all of those taxpayers. Most of the red states on the ones on a lot of welfare, so you’d be fucking over your own people.

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